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Thanks to the medical scholars in medicine and modernscientists this diagram was brought about. Look at it carefully,There are two upper compart'mepts and two lower compartments.It is found that both the upper pair and the lower pair squeezesimultaneously. Look at the' partition into ~ompartments here.There are two compartments on the lower side. There are alsotwo compartments. Look at the diagram of the tiny valve here.Whenthe lower compartments squeeze, it is found that this isblocked. This is the place where this lateral side is opened. Whenit is wqueezed, this is blocked. This is opened. The lower pair issquwezed. The upper pair is also squeezed. As there are nervesall around it, it works while he is breathing although he is asleep.You should have known it. Look at this. When the lower pair issqueezed, the blood does not rise up but it is blocked. It is foundthat it squeezes out through the side. This is one vessel that goesto the valve. You should also known that there transpgarts is theehamber of the heart that transforts the blood to the whole body.It's good. well, if this is so, you have known that the lower pairas well as the upper pair are squeezed. Isn't it that the bloodcirculctes because of the closing and apening of the valves. Itdoes. It's good. Therefore suppose that the blood that returnsfirst from the brain and the old blood which returns from thewhole body enter the Not l ) compartment. Look at it. So when itis asked as to what the blood that enters the No (1) compart-ment brings along with it is should he leept in mind that it bringsthe element of heat. What kind of element does is bring? it isthe element of heat. This is the reason why the element of heat

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accarding to medicle science, iris found to be this compartment.It is also very realistic, Again how the mind originates in thiscompartment was also preached by late Mchasi Sayadaw whowas very famous then. He was praised by senior Sayadaws andTheras .as the most learned Sayadaw in teaching practical workside byside with theory. It was during the time when the actual6th Great Council was held. Sayadaw could teach the practicalwork side by side with theory. Senier Theras also spoke inhomour of him that it was not even easy to find one who wasequally learned, not to say.of one who was more learned thanMahasi Sayadaw, in such matters. Sayadaw made an explanationhere. When others requested him to explain them on the groundthat they could not understand well what was written in the textsof the Buddhist literature. Then he pointed his fore finger at theelectric bulbs. They are 'electric bulbs. Sayadaw asked how manytimes of off and on of electricity there were in a second.Accoarding to the measurement of the scholasrs there are fiftytimes of them. How many times are there? Then Sayadaw said (0

them-to note so. Sayadaw said to them that the mind arises anddissolves in a person at a tremendone rate of more (linn It

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hot and stilf? It becomes stiff. Do you understand a little? Thenature of them is the same. You got it? That's right. If thethoughts become few, isn't it that the heart becomes less stiffand becomes cool? That's right. So it becomes realistic. There-fore it becomes certain that the mind originates here. Keep inmind that it originates here. that's right. Ah, the strange thing isthat when one is asleep, it is called contimuun (Phavanga citta).It is also called the mind which arises when one is asleep. It issaid that it is not aware of the sense objects. No thought imagearises. It is said that no image of the thought arises. It is saidthat it is not awarre of any present object. It is again said thatonly when one wakes up, the image of thought arises after thearammana (sense object) and the dvara (sense door) are con-nected. Some scholors made complaints on the ground of thissaying. They give orguements. They question as to where themind will he placed when this heart is being transplanted. Theyput up the question as to where the mind will be placed if the

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, (matter) in the blood which generates the mind. With regard tothis saying I have seen a television documentary on a heart trans-plant operation. In that documentary the arteries which comeinto here are transferred to an appuratues which has the samebreathing rate. That apparatus generates the heart to throb. Theblood is transferred into a sinilar apparatus. When it is trans-ferred the heart becomes free. Then the heart is left aside. Wellisn't it that the blood is circulcting. At that time the sleeping(dormant) mind is arisi,ng. It is as if he is asleep. Do you under-stand it? It is about the matter in the blood which generates atesthe mind. So it is as if he is asleep. I think you will understand it.Then when the heart is transplanted, the arteries are reconnected.When connected, isn't it that it becomes normal. He does notwake up immediately. When he regains strength he regainsconsciousuress because normal connections have been made .If it is. so, you could have accepted it. You got it? That's good. Ifit is so, it is a firm evidence that the mind originates here'. That'sgood. If it is so, you should ask me as to how you should under-stand the corre1ction between the metter and the mind containedin this blood. If it is asked, it must be said that it is also related

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pastexistences some may be afflicted with blood cancer, Theremay be coronary throrntosis. There may be the lack of one com-partment. I think you understand it? There may be diseases sincebirth, So can there he peace of mind. There cannot he. This isone thing. It is related to kamrna. Sometimes the arteries maybreak because of past karnma. I think you understand it. Againbecause-of dosa, which is akusale kamma, the heart may be-come enlorged. His mental behaviour may become atmormeal.It is due to the force of kamma. The next is ututheat-element.)There is an ancient saying. "Ne Myint Le, Ayu Yint Le" (thehigher the sun rises, t~re .insane one becomes. In the morn-ing as the weather i~oot lnd the sun does not shine brightlyyet, one has peace of mi'IiCf~The blood is stilto~ He is not yetinsane. The mad men' are still normal at that tlI1~When the sunrises up,_one becomes hot. If he is hungry, his feelings will be-

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. something which is put on a tape. The force of past kemma isleft there. So the mind also causes a change in the force ofkernma: .TYougot it. Ahare also changes the mind. Aren't theycorrelated to one another? (Istu) also changes the mind. Nextkarnma also changes it. Afiiiarnafifia means depen ding on oneanother mutually Note that it is changing. Now you got it. That'sgood. So let us proceed to hi~ it takes the things as object. Letus take proced forward as to how it becames aware of objects.Let's see; As you all know here is the nenvous system. So theblood from the heart flows in and flows out of the brain. Thereare arteries through which the blood flows in and flows out ofthe brain. There is also the main artery which branches out fromthe brain. So the mind which depends on the blood of the heartis very much alike electricity. Do you understand it? Moreover,it is known that the mind is connected with the whole bodythrough mervous system. So you should understand it. The ma-ture of mind is very much alike electricity. The blood does notflow through these nerves. The blood does not flow. I hope youunderstand it. There are some fatty subslance there. It is verymuch ealike wire. It is connected with the whole body. I thinkyou understand it. The Gotama Buddha h~d pointed out all the

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This diagram is where the mind depends on first It islike the place where electricity is produced. There are arteriesthrough which the blood flows in and flows out of the heart.These are me gyaw (carotid arteries) in Myanmar language.When it is blocked, one knows ,nothing. It is called carolid ar-teries. So a neurologist in Myanmar once asked me. "VenerableSir" We can demontrate to the whole world through experimentusing apparatus how the mind originates here. How are you go-ing to demonstrate your theory to the world? Then when I de-mon strated my diagram. he accepted it. He said that it was allright according to anatomy. That's good. I can say so because Ihave many hooks on medicine which belong to my father who isa doctor. That's good. So are these called carotid arteries? I amgoing to block them. If the mind does not originate in the heartbut it still has the chance to originate in the brain, the letter isthe place where the mind originates first. If the mind does not,originate in the heart, but if still originates in the brain althoughit is blocked here there will he connection between the mindand the brain, which is said to be the place, the condition andthe origin of the mind. Itsn't it correct? I will repeat it. If themind arises here, think over it. I will block this blood vessel. Iwill block it. There are all the connections here. Do you under-stand it? If the mind originates in the brain, if it is not related tothe heart, if it is not the origin of the mind, r will block the bloodvesseL Think over it and answer. I will block it. If these are stillconnected with the eyes, ears, nose, tougue and body, there willstill he consciouness. Right? But is there consciousness whenthese are blocked? So, one must accept the fact that the mind

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. place as before. When the body was touched, the blood gath-ered as before. So they thought that the mind works in the brain.

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the arising of it in flashes when the courses are sufficient. Doyou understand it? Then it should be asked as to what it is, It isvery much alike electricity, Do you understand it? Ah now onegets the chance to know about it's principle clearly. Isn't it thatone becomes aware of sense objects in flashes when thearammana (sense objects)strike at the dvaraisense doors). Onlywhen one becomes aware of them, it can be said that the mindbecomes aware of the sense objects. The answers have croppedup. Isn't it that the four questions have been answered. I willrepeat it. When (he sense objects strike at the sense doors, themind which isIike the electricity is formed. Isn't it thatconscionsness arises simultaneaously? It arises. It has to un-dergo two stages till the mind becomes aware of the sense ob-jects . I think you got it. Then as to the time when consciousness

, arises, it arises when the sense objects strike at the sense doors.'Fhe other words it arises when the blood is in circulation andwhen the conditions are sufficient in the chamber of the heart.The mind gets the chance to arise based on kamma, utu and ahara.They depend on one anothermutually. Keep in mind that it'snature is very much alike electricity. Then the "place is the top-most part of the then ber of the heart from where the bloodfrom the heart it transported to the whole body. You got it? Thenthe canse also is sufficient only when the just mentioned kamma,utu, ahara and citta are associated with one another mutually. Itgets the chance to arise when kamma utu and ahara are in circu-lation, It still exists when one is asleep, Then continuum(bhavangacitta) arises, It is not aware of present events. I thinkyou got it. Therefore, as we all are beings who have the mindand elredy gained the chance to know about the mind, we shouldbe good of it. I think you got it. \Vell, let's take a rest.

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